she misread and it didn't understand that america is supposed to rely on divine province. it's so interesting in that light -- against the poise of the great divide between the people and the elite. and that these great -- >> host: we got the point. thank you. and your response. >> guest: i have remain a committed believer in american exceptionalism, and that is not deny we have our faults and lapses, and i just think there's two kinds of people in the world, people who believe that america is a good and great country and people who don't. i do agree with the caller's recommendation to read history, and one of the books i just started reading over the ohio -- holidays, and he guess through a very thorough review of the history of the exercise of executive power over the course of american history, from george washington to george bush to show that the kind of decision that the bush administration was forced to make in the wake of september 11th are clearly within the tradition of the exercise of executive power over the ages. and although john and i might devil -- disagree